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The BC Serial Killer Suspect Henning Lagies lives 2.6 miles from the Pickton Pig Farm, where Robert Pickton tortured, murdered and dismembered at least 26 Vancouver, Eastside prostitutes, and fed them to his pigs. Although I don't think that it would be Henning's "Style", to work with anybody else as this would create a "Risk Factor", that could expose him as being a killer, and I think he was too clever for that. However, Pickton did claim that that he was not the only person involved in the killings and that there would be more killings.
Back in the 80's there were a number of strip clubs in the area that Henning would frequent on a daily basis. I believe it is possible that he could have met Pickton at one of these clubs, and over time realized that they both had the same fetish for torturing and killing women. It was said that Pickton held parties at the farm and apparently there was a woman who had been there who felt uneasy and managed to leave. This woman said she was picked up in a small white car by an older man with white hair and beard in Surrey and brought to the farm. The description matches Henning's appearance and the car he drove.
A friend of my daughter's told me that my daughter told her that she had been to the pig farm. This story from her friend was relayed to me about 4 years ago when my daughter was 16 years old. The friend quoted "She told me she has seen murders and that she has been to the pig farm." I cannot say whether that is true or not. I know my daughter has experienced both physical and psychological torture from Henning, and that somehow she has been exposed to extreme violence. Whether she has been present at murder scenes or perhaps has been exposed to graphic snuff movies, I cannot say. I can say that the details she gives seem far to precise and graphic to be portrayed even after viewing the most grotesque snuff movie.
Regardless of whether there is a link between Henning and Robert Pickton, one thing for certain is that there indeed can be serial killers who torture and dismembers his victims, living right in your own back yard!!! So why are both my child and I treated like we are the one's who are nuts when we try to relay this story to the RCMP? History would show us that these killers do exist and often these killers are people you would least expect to be commiting such crimes.... Ted Bundy a charming lawyer, Jeffery Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy a respected business man found with 33 bodies underneath his house, BTK who was married with children and a Reverened at his church, bound, tortured and killed for 33 years before being caught.... the list goes on.
I think the fact that the RCMP dismiss this man as a viable suspect is absolutely ridiculous. All it would take is ONE DAY out of their time to interview me, give me a polygraph and independant pschological examination to prove that I am not a liar, nor am I mentally ill. In addition to actually reading the two Children's Hospital Reports, and the Reports from the Play Therapist hired by the VPD confirming my child's abuse and apparent exposure to extreme violence. It would seem the RCMP just don't care.
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Melody
ReplyDeleteI'd stop meddling
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Meddling is sticking my nose where it doesn't belong....
ReplyDeleteSo what is your argument that I don't have the right to stick my nose in the middle of business which has personally affected my life and my child's life???
Explain yourself.
I am always open to debate when logic is presented in a reasonable manner.
Don't keep getting involved or somthing bad may happen
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ReplyDeleteYou guys have my full support. Keep it up!
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Sounds like that was a threat to me! Melody my heart goes out to you and your daughter. I looked at your blog after seeing your link in the comments on fb after the highway of tears 48 hours episode the other night. I don't know if you get notifications of these comments or not. I have watched your YouTube videos. How long ago was this older woman and man tortured that your daughter saw? First thing that came to my mind was Lyle and Marie mccan the older couple that went missing from edson
ReplyDeleteContinued from last comment. Not sure if that fits the timeline or not but that was the first thing that popped into my head. Please don't give up with the police!!!! I also wonder if the person responsible for HOT has anything to do with the missing men from the lower mainland? One of those missing men is very close to me
ReplyDeleteShe disclosed her abuse to me in April of 1999 and gradually began to reveal the murder stories. Henning didn't have access to her long enough until starting age 4, but more so by about age 6 to 8... she was 8 when she disclosed her abuse. I would think that any such murder stories would have been 1997 to 1998 range.
ReplyDeleteAs for the missing men I agree that this is a strong possibility. When there was too much heat on HOT it seems like that is when a lot of men started to go missing. My hypothesis if Henning is involved in any of the missing men would be that he may call upon needing a guy to help with handyman work or something... some reason to meet with a strange man to interview him for work or something and then perhaps asking the man to demonstrate some skills and hit them with a blow when they least expect it...
I dont know any details about the men other than I read somewhere along the way they were seemed to mostly fit younger, fit men who had nothing to do with the sex trade industry... I should do more research into that.
If you have details you can share with me you can PM to zodiacnorth@live.ca or on my facebook page if you like. They will remain confidential, but if you want me to see if I recognize anything in the victim profiling or anything I can try to see if anything I know about Henning relates to your close friend and what my suspicions have been in regards to our missing men.
Henning is an extremely intelligent man, organized, cunning and meticulous... also an excellent actor... he is getting older now; turned 77 in May, but as someone put it to me once "Even a dying tiger will hunt to his last breath."
Just a couple facts: BTK (Dennis Rader) killed 10 women over the course of 17 years. That was fom 1974 to 1991. Also he was a deacon and head of a church council, but not a reverend. Facts are very important things. Also, I was saddened for what has happened to you daughter, but you contradict things in that email chain with Kathy Flynn where you state (i'm paraphrasing) that he showed he images at rotten.com and you think that maybe that mixed with drugs and other trauma caused your daughter to fabricate the murder stories, or believe them to be true although they didn't happen. I'm not downplaying the trauma you and your daughter have suffered, but when you can try to come up with 10,000 for forensics for something the RCMP finds baseless, but have not mentioned getting treatment for yourself or your daughter... I can't help but question your motives/priorities.
ReplyDeleteThe emails between Kathy and I from Crime Watch Canada Magazine are amongst dozens upon dozens, if not into the hundreds of emails that went back and forth between us for quite some period of time. When your child tells you details that is so shocking you yearn to find answers.... could she really have seen this?? What happened??!! How is she telling me these things?? Etc, etc....
ReplyDeleteMy daughter never told me until 2010 that he showed her images on rotten.com.... since then I have done research and found stories regarding "Ritualistic Child Abuse where children have come up with similar type content on some aspects. In my quest to find answers, being a logical person, I have to take numerous factors into consideration. 1) she may have actually witnessed this 2) he implanted the memories in her brain by methods of psychological torture 3) she may have seen snuff movies 4) she may have been exposed to a combination of all the said...
As far as me not mentioning receiving counselling for myself and my daughter, well that would show that you have not thoroughly reviewed the content of my blog, or followed my story in numerous other forums where I clearly show medical documentation from Children's Hospital that shows two assessments including a 1 month residential psychiatric assessment.
I have also repeatedly spoken of my child being put into play therapy for 9 months which the Vancouver Police Department paid for and how the counsellor said my child was too traumatized to help her after 9 months and said she was not qualified to help her. How that same counsellor begged the Ministry of Children and Family Development to fund other counseling for my child, and how at a later point the Ministry took custody of my child and how we both attended individual and family counselling for years, and how I have clearly stated over and over that I went to my own counselling weekly for 7 years to get myself out of the dark place I lived for so long and how it took me another 3 years after that to gather the strength to once again fight for justice.
ReplyDeleteAs for the $10,000 for forensics and investigative works, that was what Tokala consulting quoted me and that quote is posted publically. I did have a fundraising campaign in an attempt to raise money for forensics which may have blown this case wide open, but that campaign has been closed since June and I have never attempted again to raise funds, seeing how difficult it is. It isn't unlike any other person raising funds for investigations when a loved one is missing, or they have suffered and injustice and need to hire professionals of their own to prove their case.
It is expected that people will question my motives and that is ok, because I have nothing to hide. I am just a mom who never gave up fighting for justice for my child and the families of missing/murdered women here in BC. I base my suspicions against the man I know raped and tortured my child, not just on her testimony of witnessing murders alone, but a multitude of other circumstantial evidence some of which is posted on my blog and some of which is not.
I hind sight I have learned a lot and I realize that I was duped by a predator who is very good at what he does. I also realize now that when people said their dog never barks at anyone, but goes crazy when they see Henning, or when people tried to tell me there was something creepy about Henning, that those people had a sense for what was true, when I was brainwashed by someone I had knows since I was 16 and trusted more than anyone in the world.
When you grow up in foster care and you have no support systems and some guy like this is hanging out in your foster home everyday and spends years gaining your trust, you don't realize that you have never been anything more than an easy target until after it is too late. The man is pure evil and I truly believe he is a killer, whether he actually brought my daughter along to murders or not, I absolutely believe he is a killer and he has some pretty depraved thoughts that I believe would be too much of a fantasy in his own mind to not attempt to try and carry out... especially considering how extremely intelligent he is, as well as a self-proclaimed genius... it would a challenge he would absolutely be up for...
This crime has consumed my life, and wondering who this man really is, trying to find answers I believe can be found if only the RCMP themselves actually did their jobs, and if not if I could only manage to pay for the investigations myself... at least some key elements that could be enough to open the eyes of the RCMP if factual data could be presented such as possible matching DNA profile to the killer and/or a victim.... Despite those who will doubt me, I will never let that deter me, and I will never stop trying to be heard and to educate people not only of the evil that lurks in this man, but in predators since the beginning of time...
The story is bizarre, but it is real and although I cannot prove at this point the man is a killer I am trying to present why he should be considered a viable suspect and why the RCMP should be investigating him... like they don't think it's odd the man digs a compartment underneath his bathroom floor or drives a van with chains hanging from the ceiling up the Highway of Tears... let alone believe what he did to my child when I have a multitude of psychiatrists, other doctors, counsellors, social workers, teacher and daycare workers, etc that say it did?? Lame if you ask me... It isn't my fault the RCMP don't care, but I will never stop caring...
Oh yes, I also p aid $160/hr out of my own pocket to try pay for a child psychologist to give an assessment of what my child was telling me. This is something that takes repeated appointments to do and after a couple months I just couldn't afford it anymore. I contacted that same doctor last year to ask how much he would charge me to review his notes and the audio i have and give me a written assessment.... his retainer was $5000 and that was only a retainer. Obviously I couldn't afford that, but yet another example at how those who are in a position to help, refuse to do so unless I pay thousands of dollars to them.... the only people who have ever offered to help and never asked me for anything is Kathy Steck Flynn from Crime Watch Canada Magazine, Ron Rice - Forensic Examiner from the United States, and Anthony Iantosca - Forensic Examiner from the United States, and a SARS dog handler from the US who only wanted his costs to travel pretty much and nothing more... These are the walls I have been up against. It is unfortunate that those qualified to help won't do so, just because it is the right thing to do...
ReplyDeletei have read your blog...and sorry for what your daughter has gone through...as a parent i dont think that after all this happening to my child that i would put much or anything at allincluding posting pictures of my daughter if Henning was still ou on the loose....i just think that alot of this has to do with wrighting a good book?
ReplyDeleteDoes Mr. Lagies have any ties that you know of to the Victoria area of Vancouver Island?
ReplyDeleteSomething very interesting has come up in my research of the zodiac.
-Malice-
I am not sure.... I used to live in Port Alberni at one point and then Qualicum, but not for very long. He did travel out there a few times to help me with stuff. Victoria is quite a distance from there, but he had all kinds of secrets I didn't know about. Hard to say.
ReplyDeleteIn zodiacs first cipher the last 18 letters were scrambled and thought meaningless.
ReplyDeleteI've decoded it as follows:
Meteorite Hit Ephebi
Ephebi is a word that means relating to a specific time period, or antiquity.
Antiquity as in before christ? B.C.
Is he saying:
Where the meteorite hit in B.C.?
There seems to be quite a few impact sites in Victoria b.c.
There is also a victoria in california . It's just east of Mt diablo. It is also an impact site, but this wasn't considered to be an impact site until 2007.
Being a man of astrology, could zodiac have known in the late sixties that this had all of the tell tale signs of a meteor impact, and made the connection to another site in B.C.?
Maybe he wasn't pin pointing an exact locality, but rather just found another clever way to rub the B.C. connection in everyone's face without them even realizing.
Any thoughts?
-Malice-
Well that all sounds very interesting, but I think my sleuthing days are over. I just don't have the same cognitive abilities since my accident to do the investigations and conspiracy theories I used to work on. I welcome your input from your investigations whole-heartedly, but unfortunately I don't have a lot to add like I did in the past.... I do agree though that Henning is the type of person who would enjoy rubbing people's face in things without them realizing it. He would be quite amused by that type of thing.
DeleteI completely understand your position. I will continue to post my findings. I may actually start my own blog to post my findings.
ReplyDeleteIf I emailed you some questions that I have would you mind answering them?
-Malice-
If I am able to answer any questions I will, however answering questions via email does put my intellectual property at risk, so I am cautious what I share with people via email. I have been well advised by some people in the industry. It depends on what you ask me and what I feel comfortable sharing via email. Some people I have been more open with on email have been those who have identified themselves and have crediential such as Ron Rice and Anthony Iantosca.
ReplyDeleteFair enough. The questions that I have are not personal. They are all really basic questions about Mr. Lagies. And of course, anything that you don't want to answer, you don't have to.
ReplyDeleteIn all honesty, I think most of these questions you won't know but I figured it's worth a shot.
I can't provide you with any credentials because I don't have any, unfortunately. All of my skills are self taught and I am not affiliated with any notable organization.
I go by a fictitious name only for the sake of protecting my self from unwanted attention. A lot of people are attracted to stories like the zodiac because of the potential glory in it. I, on the other hand, don't care for glory or monetary gain. I am only interested in finding the truth.
I'll send my questions within the next day or two.
Sure OK. And yes I understand what you are talking about with tying yourself to the Zodiac when you make your name known. I had a very tough time in the beginning trying to explain to people what I was talking about and people called me all kinds of names. Recently somebody posted on my blog that they thought I was a con just looking for money, hence the post I recently wrote saying what the REAL story is about regarding our missing women, RCMP neglect and what happened to my child.
ReplyDeleteThe Zodiac conspiracy theories here are interesting and one never knows if there is a connection, but it wasn't how my investigations into Henning began way back in 1999.
Honestly when I first seen this site I was skeptical. The more I read the more I realized that you were on to something. Your suspect is the only one that I have ever seen that fits every explored angle, and I've studied every suspect ever named exhaustively.
ReplyDeleteI have found tons of clues in the zodiac letters that have not been mentioned any where online to date. For the time being, I intend to keep these to myself. I will release them eventually, but first I want to continue my research and find more evidence supporting what I have already found. I don't want to release it prematurely and it turn out to be wrong or misleading.
My main goal right now is trying to find proof of him being in the u.s. around the time the murders occured. I'm doing this by pulling public records from the immigration offices here in the states. If he came here from Germany his name will be on the manifest of the boat or aircraft he arrived on. If he came from canada, I might be looking at a lot more work.
It's impossible to say if this man is the zodiac. I do feel that he is a viable suspect though, and worth investigating.
-Malice-
I believe Henning landed in Canada. I cannot remember the year now. I have it in my records somewhere, but he landed a year after his other family did. He had a brother who lived in California about the time of the Zodiac killings... San Francisco for that matter.
ReplyDeleteThat was my point with relating him to the killings up here is if he is one in the same he travelled as much as 1000 miles south of the border to distance himself from his home to kill, as he may have travelled up to 1000 miles north of his home in Canada to kill women along the Highway of Tears as well.
Henning is a very clever and cunning man.. a self-proclaimed genius at that, described by other as being brilliant and quoted as that being the thing that made him so scary by some of the women who were abused by him, but too afraid to come forward to say anything when I pleaded with them to.